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              <text>Gloria Sosa: 00:00:04 So we're gonna get started now. So thank you so much, Joanna,&#13;
for, um, giving me this time to talk to you and, um, just sharing&#13;
your stories with me. So, um, can you please share with me&#13;
your age, your preferred pronouns, and during and what years&#13;
you were at Cal State LA.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:00:22 Yeah. So I am 33 years old. My preferred pronouns are she and&#13;
her, and I was at Cal State LA from fall 2007 till spring 2013.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:00:41 Great. And were you a student or what was your role?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:00:45 I was a student, yes. Undergrad student.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:00:50 Undergrad. Perfect. Uh, can you describe uh, describe to me,&#13;
uh, your current occupation.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:00:58 Yes. So I'm currently a grad student at California Baptist&#13;
University, um, doing a dual program for marriage, family&#13;
therapy and, um, professional clinical counseling.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:01:10 Okay. What was your major at Cal State LA?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:01:13 Social work. Social work, and a minor in Chicano studies.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:01:19 Mm-hmm. &lt;affirmative&gt;. That's very good. So it aligns with&#13;
what you're doing now, right?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:01:22 Yeah. &lt;laugh&gt;,&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:01:24 It's like the combo. Um, could you please describe your family&#13;
background?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:01:31 Yes. So I am a first generation, uh, immigrant. Uh, my parents&#13;
and I, um, came to the US when I was eight months old, I&#13;
believe. Um, and ever since I grew up in South Central Los&#13;
Angeles, that's where my roots are. Um, come from a family of&#13;
four. Um, my mom has always been a, that immigrant stay at&#13;
home, but provided childcare for all the other moms that work&#13;
in factories, um, in the area. My dad had different jobs and&#13;
factories, um, um, and, and landscaping and so forth. So they've&#13;
had different odd jobs just to pay off the rent. Um, and I just got&#13;
a younger sister. Um, I'm still the first in my family to have a&#13;
degree, and so I'm also gonna be the first in my family to get a&#13;
master's degree.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:02:28 Yay. you go! So, um, you're from Mexico. Do you mind sharing&#13;
from where? What state?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:02:38 Oh, yeah. I'm from Guadalajara, Jalisco.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:02:42 And are you the oldest sibling?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:02:44 Yes, I'm the oldest.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:02:46 So then all of your um, siblings were born here?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:02:50 Yeah, I only have one, and she was only born here.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:02:53 Oh, okay. Okay.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:02:53 &lt;laugh&gt;. Yeah.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:02:54 So your family of four. Okay. I under- misunderstood &lt;laugh&gt;.&#13;
Nice, nice. It's the only one. Okay. Um. When you moved from&#13;
Guadalajara to here, did you stay in the LA area?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:03:11 Yes, yes. We never moved anywhere. We've always lived in&#13;
South Central.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:03:19 Did you live in the same house or was it moving around? Just&#13;
the area?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:03:25 Mm, moving around the area, just, but within the same like&#13;
little community, like maybe like when we moved from one&#13;
house and then two blocks down, we ended up renting another&#13;
house, but within the same small community.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:03:39 And what was that community like?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:03:45 Uh, growing up in the nineties, it was hard. It was a lot of gangs&#13;
around that time, a lot of shootouts. Um, but it was different.&#13;
Like you still had such a diverse community. I had such a diverse&#13;
group of friends, you know, learning English. My mom said I was&#13;
able to, you know, catch school really quick. The language, the&#13;
culture. Um, mostly all my friends were always African&#13;
American. My best friends still this day they are African&#13;
American, like my best friends. So I've always had that&#13;
connection, the black and brown unity connection with, you&#13;
know, those in my community. Um, it was hard, but I think it&#13;
made me very alert of my surroundings. It made me be the&#13;
different hustler in, in that sector of it hustling for an education&#13;
and opportunities. So, so yeah, it was different. &lt;Laugh&gt;&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:04:53 So it was a diverse community. And how did you deal with the&#13;
violence? You were, um, alert your surroundings and can you&#13;
perhaps give an example how that looked like?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:05:07 Um, just looking over your shoulder at the time, making sure,&#13;
you know, um, we knew the gang members in the streets, um,&#13;
and I never felt threatened by them. Um, I think because my&#13;
mom also took care of the kids, so it was more like they&#13;
protected us or they protected me. Um, I was, I was known in&#13;
the community because I was so involved in my community. I&#13;
was a youth activist. I was always doing workshops with, you&#13;
know, immigrant rights workshops and everything. Everybody in&#13;
my community knew me. They all knew my parents. And so, you&#13;
know, going to Cal State LA on the bus, &lt;laugh&gt;, um, carrying a&#13;
laptop or, you know, just my books, everything. Um, I&#13;
remember that there, there would be nights that, you know, we&#13;
live in the hood, so sometimes the street lights didn't work. Um,&#13;
and my mom would send a few of the gang members to wait for&#13;
me at the bus stop so that they can walk me home, &lt;laugh&gt;. So&#13;
it's that community sense, like, they always protected me. They&#13;
knew that I was gonna make it out and I was gonna be&#13;
somebody in the future. So it kind of felt like, I know it felt good&#13;
to know that, you know, that they also believed in me, you&#13;
know?&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:06:28 Yes. So since an early age, you were aware that through&#13;
education, and I quote what you said, you were going to make it&#13;
out of that community?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:06:40 I, I never saw myself making it out, like living out. I just saw&#13;
myself as my mom would aw. Like, we came here for a reason,&#13;
you know, the American dream, all of that, yada, yada. But I&#13;
didn't know I was undocumented. That all changed when I was&#13;
in middle school. So how I found out was I was selected or&#13;
nominated for a scholarship, $5,000, and I got it. I didn't it.&#13;
Yeah. But they required a social, and I remember going to the&#13;
dinner and the awards ceremony and everything, and then they&#13;
put all the awardees and their parents in a room so they can fill&#13;
out all the paperwork with the taxes on their social so that&#13;
those scholarships can be dispersed to, um, to them. Um, and it&#13;
was gonna be done through like an account, like a bank&#13;
account, and we would have access to it when we turned 17 or&#13;
18 like that or something like that. And so I remember my mom&#13;
pulling in, my counselor out and talking to her, and my&#13;
counselor kind of looking at me and started crying. And I was&#13;
just like, well, what's going on? You know? And they pulled me&#13;
to the side and told me like, you're gonna still be part of the&#13;
ceremony, but you cannot get the money. And I was just like,&#13;
what do you mean I can't get the money? Mm-hmm.&#13;
&lt;affirmative&gt;. But yeah, you can't because you don't have a&#13;
social. And then like monday, it was a Saturday night type of&#13;
award ceremony. So my construction was like, on Monday&#13;
we're gonna explain it to you a little bit more just in your, enjoy&#13;
the dinner, enjoy the award, you still, you know, you still won&#13;
that and you still deserve that. Monday came and my mom&#13;
went to school and sat down with my counselor and they&#13;
explained to me that I don't have papers that I was born in&#13;
Mexico, and because of that I don't have a social security&#13;
number. And I was just, well, just, I'm, what is it, 12, 11 years&#13;
old? I, I don't know what immigration is. I don't know what&#13;
immigration status is. I don't know what a social security card is&#13;
or number. That's never defined me or that's never really been&#13;
a part of my lab or sense or anything like that. Um, and my mom&#13;
was, the only way my mom was able to explain it to me because&#13;
I was just like, well, just put any number there. You know, like,&#13;
just put something until you get, I can get the money, I can get&#13;
the scholarship. Like, fix it. You're an adult. And the only way my&#13;
mom could explain it was this. She was just like, your sister, she&#13;
was born in the US so she has US papers. You were born in&#13;
Mexico, which I already knew mm-hmm. &lt;affirmative&gt;. And&#13;
she's like, you were born in Mexico. And I was like, yeah. She's&#13;
like, well, because you were born in Mexico, like in Spanish. Um,&#13;
she was telling me, you have Mexican papers. So then I told her,&#13;
well, then put my Mexican number in there, &lt;laugh&gt;. And I still&#13;
didn't get it. Uh, but they had to explain it that they wanted the&#13;
American number, the American papers, and I don't have that.&#13;
And so that to me really sunk in. And in that moment, I really&#13;
realized that, okay, if these few digits, if this little number had&#13;
such a drastic change in me receiving this form of scholarship or&#13;
money for me to go to college, because for me, college was&#13;
everything for me. College was everything. Then how else and&#13;
what else is gonna be taken away because of this? So in that&#13;
moment, I realized the impact of my undocumented status.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:10:29 Right. At a really young age.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:10:32 Yeah. So I made it my mission, my, I don't know what to call it,&#13;
but it was like the fire in me that like lit up. And in high school I&#13;
was like, I'm not gonna be quiet about this. I know there's other&#13;
people I know that we can do other stuff. So I became kind of&#13;
like a voice of the young immigrant movement. And I was&#13;
joining MEChA and I was joining other stuff, and I was being a&#13;
part of, you know, community organizations and I was going to&#13;
classes and telling my story that I'm undocumented, and that&#13;
kind of like a way of other students letting the teachers know,&#13;
"Hey, I'm undocumented too. Like, what can we do? What are&#13;
resources out there for us?" You know?&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:11:23 So, um, so this happened in the scholarship happened in middle&#13;
school mm-hmm. &lt;affirmative&gt;. And then this is when it hit you&#13;
right. That you were undocumented. Okay. So moving a little&#13;
forward, I guess, to high school first. Where did you go to high&#13;
school?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:11:43 So, I went to two high schools. I went to Jefferson High School,&#13;
which is in South Central, very historical high school. &lt;laugh&gt;&#13;
We had, riots when I went to high school, it was they gang&#13;
related. Um, I went there for two years and then I finished my&#13;
11th and 10th and 12th grade at Santi Education Complex,&#13;
which is also South Central.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:12:09 Okay. So what was it like at Jefferson?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:12:17 Um, I mean, at Jeff to me it was just like, you get the kids that&#13;
don't want to study, then you get the kids that want to study&#13;
(inaudible) I mean, no matter what my circumstance were, I put&#13;
education first. Can you hear me?&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:12:46 Yes, it was, cut it up a little, bit okay. Yohana so you were&#13;
sharing with me how was, uh, how was it like at your Jefferson&#13;
high school? Your first high school where you did the 10th and&#13;
the 9th grade?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:13:01 Yes. Um, yeah, so I mean, I think any normal high school, I didn't&#13;
experience anything different aside from just the riots that&#13;
happened in 2000 and, um, 2005 or something like that? Um,&#13;
you know, um, which were gang related. It put a hold in my&#13;
education in the sense that it interrupted the education during&#13;
time with the teachers. Um, but I mean, I did what I had to do&#13;
with projects, with homework. I, I just continued. Um, and then&#13;
Santi education opened, so that was a brand new high school.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:13:52 Okay.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:13:53 So we went from an old high school, very historic, where, um,&#13;
my cousins, my aunts, many of my family members have gone&#13;
there. Um, and the community, um, to a brand new, like you&#13;
took the plastic off type of high school &lt;laugh&gt; that had a pool,&#13;
had tennis courts, had everything you can think of. Um, and at&#13;
Jeff, I was, I played, I played tennis. So at Jeff you had to walk to&#13;
the park to play tennis, to practice for tennis, um, for our high&#13;
school. So that's kind of like the little difference that we had.&#13;
Um, but yeah, I just, I mean, it's, my education was normal to&#13;
the extent, but, um, just about just me being more aware of my&#13;
situation. Um, and I think the only club I had joined there was&#13;
Big Brother, Big Sister. That was the only thing available there.&#13;
Um, Santi, Santi was a whole different story. &lt;laugh&gt; Santi, um,&#13;
we had MEChA, we had, uh, we created Somos Raza We had&#13;
really strong young teachers who were coming in ready to talk&#13;
and provide ethnic studies. So we were learning about Che&#13;
Guevara, we were learning about, um, the different, uh, you&#13;
know, revolutionary, just, not just Pancho Villa but Las Adelitas.&#13;
You know, we were learning so much there. And I remember,&#13;
um, just going after school to just learn and grab books that&#13;
were not part of the American educational system, like we were&#13;
reading Malcolm X, you name it. Um, and even though that&#13;
sounds crazy, right? Like, that was revolutionary at that time.&#13;
That was right. That was different in those moments because&#13;
that was not part of the curriculum. You know, we had people,&#13;
um, who were, for example, really good community, um,&#13;
activists, uh, Ron Coches, Jose Lara. We had, um, those type of&#13;
key elements in our high school. Um, so yeah, we were, we&#13;
were in there creating curriculum for us, learning about our&#13;
history, um, and, and creating programs and organizations that&#13;
were for us. And for me, Santi was more of that awakening for&#13;
my story. That's where I started sharing more. Um, we had&#13;
social workers, um, therapists in there, and I remember just&#13;
starting my healing process there about my journey. Um,&#13;
because if you were to talk to me back in 2017, I mean, 2007&#13;
&lt;laugh&gt;, I would not be able to say everything I'm saying&#13;
without crying. You know, the trauma would hit harder. Um, but&#13;
because I healed in therapy, because I, I healed that part of my&#13;
life and my identity, um, I'm able to talk to it now in a way that's&#13;
more of a healing than a trigger. And the passive was for&#13;
triggering. So we had that kind of support there. Um, you know,&#13;
and I believe that the teachers there really believed in me. I, I&#13;
still have them down as friends, they become mentors. Um, and&#13;
I was kind of the, I don't wanna say Guinea pig, but I was kind&#13;
of, uh, &lt;laugh&gt;, how do I say it? I was a lot of, so a lot of them&#13;
were first time teachers or educators in this com- in this&#13;
community. And I was their first undocumented senior &lt;laugh&gt;,&#13;
I guess openly, I guess, you know, maybe other folks were, but&#13;
openly I was their first, even my college counselor there. And I&#13;
remember like, I was valedictorian, so I had a really high GPA.&#13;
And they're trying to get me into Berkeley. They're trying to get&#13;
me into UCLA, you know, these are prof, these are all&#13;
educational UC's. Um, UCLA, I'm applying to USC. So I&#13;
remember sitting down and doing the UC applications. And&#13;
remember, this is before the Dream Act, right? Before any of&#13;
that, the only thing that was in, in, in our world during that time&#13;
was AB 540. That's the only thing we had. Um, but nothing else.&#13;
Everything else that was in the news or in the political, um, I&#13;
guess air, was the Federal Dream Act. Um, that was it. There&#13;
was nothing else educational wise, financial aid wise, that would&#13;
support aside in California, aside from AB 540 Um, so I&#13;
remember some submit. I remember being ready to submit my&#13;
four UC's, and of course I don't have papers. So they were like,&#13;
well, let's figure out, let's see what's gonna happen. And of&#13;
course, it didn't take the waiver because I don't have a social, so&#13;
it asked for a credit card. And I believe each application was, let&#13;
me see, Cal States were $50, each UC's were $66 or $65 each.&#13;
So, if you, if you were to times, let's say 65 times four&#13;
universities, that's $260, right? That's $260 that I did not have.&#13;
&lt;laugh&gt;. I was working already under the table. I worked in the&#13;
fashion district, I sold prom dresses. Um, at the age of 16, I&#13;
started working around in that area. So that was my way of&#13;
earning income. Um, but I didn't have that money with me in&#13;
that moment. So I remember looking at my counselor, I&#13;
remember having a counselor, my college counselor in the back,&#13;
assistant principal on the other side, and three other senior, uh,&#13;
teachers in the room helping other students too. And when my&#13;
college counselor gasp, she's like, oh, no, they'll turn, because I&#13;
get, I was like, Guinea pig. So I was the one kind of separated&#13;
from everybody else and seeing how they're gonna help me,&#13;
what's gonna happen. And I was just like, what happened? And&#13;
she's like, you have to pay. And I'm like, oh, how much is it? And&#13;
she's like, um, if this is the amount, it was like two something.&#13;
And I was just like, look, I will have the money on Monday. Like,&#13;
I'm gonna work Friday, Saturday, Saturday and Sunday, and I&#13;
will get you the money on Monday. I can, you know, I don't&#13;
even have a, I didn't even have a debit card, &lt;laugh&gt;. So I was&#13;
like, can I borrow the debit card? Can I borrow money? And, or I&#13;
can have my mom come and pick and, you know, give you the&#13;
money. Like, I'm over here figuring out. Right. And I remember&#13;
my, my college counselor picking out her debit card and she up,&#13;
she said, I'll pay for it. Then one of my other teachers took out&#13;
his debit card and she's like, I have the Cal States. Then my&#13;
other two pay for my private, um, applications, which was UC,&#13;
USC and Mount. No, what is the amount? The All Girls college? I&#13;
forgot that Private School. Um, but yeah, they all took other&#13;
cards and they paid. And I remember just crying. I was like,&#13;
whoa. Like, she's like, no, like we believe in you mija and we're&#13;
not gonna let any, uh, you know, nothing stop you from&#13;
achieving your dreams.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:21:42 You know, you just have to get to just one. And, you know, and&#13;
that was a goal. Just get to one. And I remember them putting&#13;
the fire under me, like, okay, so I can't get financial aid. I am&#13;
working, but it's not a lot of money. What's my next option?&#13;
They're like, scholarships. Okay. pos ponte. And I was applying&#13;
to, I wanna say two scholarships every week. And I was able to&#13;
graduate with a total of $10,000 in scholarships. Yeah. &lt;laugh&gt;&#13;
outta the $10,000, I wanna say two of those scholarships were&#13;
renewable until I graduated. Those scholarships were $2,000&#13;
each. So, every year, as long I kept and maintained a certain&#13;
gpa, I was able to renew until I graduated from Cal State LA. uh,&#13;
from college, right. So, I ended up getting into UC Riverside, I&#13;
got into UC Berkeley, I got into Santa Cruz, I got into Cal State&#13;
LA. I got into Cal State Dominguez Hills, and I was waitlisted at&#13;
USC.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:22:58 Um, because they needed me to complete one more class. I was&#13;
missing one more class they wanted me to complete. Um, but I&#13;
mean, financially that wasn't gonna be the best choice either&#13;
way. Um, so, but I was just happy over there. Alright. I got at&#13;
least, I got a wait listed &lt;laugh&gt;. Um, I remember sitting down&#13;
my parents and just spreading out the packages, all my&#13;
acceptances and going over all the financial aid, like looking at&#13;
the numbers, realistically, right? And yeah, I could've gone to&#13;
Berkeley, I could've gone to any UC, but realistically I wasn't&#13;
going to be able to afford it. Not even, not even the scholarships&#13;
that I have were gonna be enough to afford it. So I then looked&#13;
at the Cal State's and I said, okay, what can I afford? Which one&#13;
is best? We went, I took my parents, we took the bus and we&#13;
went to Dominguez Hills, we took the tour, we visited, and ah, I&#13;
liked it, but it wasn't giving me the energy, the vibe I wanted.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:24:00 Mm-hmm. &lt;affirmative&gt;.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:24:00 I went to Cal State LA. And, um, I remember the high school was&#13;
like, I need you to go to Epic Center. And he's no longer there.&#13;
He retired, but she's like, um, I need you to go and speak to&#13;
Jorge Uranga. He was the director of Epic. And I'm not sure if&#13;
you ever met him, but, um, he was a director of Epic. And I went&#13;
in, I took the bus, I went, I met him, and he was like the&#13;
Godfather I never knew &lt;laugh&gt; &lt;laugh&gt;. He welcomed, "Hola.&#13;
mija como estas?" And just, I spoke to him about my story. He's&#13;
like, you know, oh, I know Fermin. I know there's an&#13;
organization here. It's called SURGE. You need to go meet them.&#13;
And this is in the summer. So this is before, before I would start&#13;
school or anything. This is still like, I was still a senior in high&#13;
school.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:24:57 I was about to graduate. Um, so he's the one that connected me&#13;
to SURGE, um, and to Fermin. And I remember reaching out to&#13;
Fermin. I said, Hey, I, I'm about to graduate from high school,&#13;
like, I have like one more month and I'm going into Cal State LA&#13;
in the fall. Mm-hmm. &lt;affirmative&gt;. Um, you know, I, I heard&#13;
about SURGE I, you know, I wanna join an organization, I wanna&#13;
join something. Um, can you let me know? And he said, join us.&#13;
They're having a two day or weekend retreat that I believe in&#13;
that, in that moment, I think SALEF or MALDEF had provided the&#13;
funding for. Um, and so I went, hotel was included. Everything, I&#13;
think we say like around Boyle Heights or something like that.&#13;
&lt;laugh&gt;, I met everybody. I met the original members. Um, you&#13;
know, Fermin was also a freshman. Um, so when I went in, he&#13;
was a second year.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:25:53 Um, I met Jose, I met Jorge, I met Martha. I met kind of like the&#13;
OG originals &lt;laugh&gt;. Um, and I kind of became that OG original&#13;
too, in a, in a sense. But I was like the baby original &lt;laugh&gt;.&#13;
Everybody was there before me. Um, but I remember that&#13;
feeling of like, just, I was able to breathe and say, I'm not alone.&#13;
You know, I'm not, I'm not alone in my thoughts. I'm not alone&#13;
in my struggle. I'm not alone in the sense that I'm first gen and I&#13;
don't know what to do. They SURGE was that family, that&#13;
support group that, that system, I really needed to not just&#13;
succeed at Cal State LA but create that story at Cal State LA. If, I&#13;
don't think, if SURGE was not there, I don't think we would've&#13;
done, we would've done, and we would've been a part of that&#13;
historical movement.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:27:04 Right. So yes, SURGE does have this story of bringing people&#13;
together. Right. And that's beautiful. Um, so that was beautiful.&#13;
There's a lot to cover there. So let me come back a little to, um,&#13;
your high school. So, at Jefferson it was pretty much, um, just&#13;
doing classes, right? And, um, once you got to Santi, that's&#13;
where everything unraveled. Yeah. Um, so it sounds like&#13;
everything started because you were able to find the people&#13;
who was willing to help you, right? Yeah. So how did that, how&#13;
did you find the people willing to help you? How did you&#13;
disclose your status?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:27:52 I was never afraid of my immigration status because that fear in&#13;
a way was never instilled me. And, and the only way I could&#13;
describe it was, you know, my dad was, um, my dad was&#13;
deported a few times, so I was able to experience that. Um, he&#13;
was deported because he was doing stuff he wasn't supposed to&#13;
be doing &lt;laugh&gt;. So, and I remember once he got out of jail&#13;
and (inaudible) and just kind of started doing the right thing, I&#13;
remember him sitting to me down and, and telling me. Um, so&#13;
he came outta jail when I was in, in the eighth grade. Um, and&#13;
he was in jail for like 10 years. So he was outta my life for a long&#13;
part of just my childhood. But I remember him just saying like,&#13;
you know, no matter what, no matter what happens because of&#13;
our status, because you know, nobody can take away your&#13;
education. Nobody. Es lo unico que no te pueden quitar. Te&#13;
pueden quitar la casa, el carro, las tarjetas, todo, Una educacion&#13;
nadie te la puede quitar ni el gobierno.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:29:04 So that's stuck with me. You know, if I were to ever get&#13;
deported, if I were to able go back to Mexico or, you know, my&#13;
Rancho in Santo Domingo, I know that I can go back with a&#13;
sense of education, resources and start from there, you know?&#13;
Um, and that really helped me. And so I was able to just really&#13;
just, if the teachers were like, you know, "Hey, I need help with&#13;
this." Or, I remember doing my project, um, for my AP&#13;
government class on AB 540, um, where, um, I was able to fly.&#13;
So I represented SoCal, Southern California Girls Coalition,&#13;
something like that, where one girl from each city was, um,&#13;
nominated and represented, and the house assembly members&#13;
paid for our trip. So we got our flight book hotel booked for the&#13;
whole week, and we spent the week in Sacramento. Um, so I&#13;
represented South Central &lt;laugh&gt;. I represented South Central&#13;
&lt;laugh&gt;.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:30:12 Was that the first time you were, um, going away from home?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:30:18 No, I, um, before that there was, there was another event in&#13;
Sacramento before that. There was a, there was another event&#13;
in Sacramento that, um, I was nominated for as well. Mm-hmm.&#13;
&lt;affirmative&gt;. Um, and again, flight, everything paid for. Um, so&#13;
that was my second time. But I remember just being in the&#13;
plane scared. I remember, you know, my mom letting them&#13;
know that because I'm underage, I'm able to travel, you know,&#13;
on the plane with my school ID and the school field trip. So it&#13;
protected us. Um, so I remember just like going over that with&#13;
my mom and, you know, making sure that I didn't do anything&#13;
dumb in the airport or anything, like &lt;laugh&gt;. I was just so, I was&#13;
such a stickler for like the rules because I didn't wanna break&#13;
any rules, &lt;laugh&gt;. But yeah, like I, I was just, I've always been&#13;
very open about my situation.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:31:16 I've never, even to this day, I've always been, because I've&#13;
always said, if I can say it, maybe I can give power to somebody&#13;
mm-hmm. &lt;affirmative&gt; who might not be able to say it in that&#13;
moment, who still, you know, we, we call it 'coming out of the&#13;
shadows', right? Who's still part of those shadows. So, um, I've&#13;
always been able to say it. And to me that's always been a really&#13;
great powerful, I don't wanna say tool, but just a way of me to&#13;
connect with people. Um, because I was able to humanize being&#13;
undocumented. Nobody knew unless I said it. Um, you know, I&#13;
spoke at different conventions. I spoke at different educational&#13;
conferences. Um, I, I was getting paid to go to, uh, grad, um, to&#13;
different graduate classes at, you know, Northridge, Fullerton,&#13;
different universities, UCLA, um, and the professors, because&#13;
they knew my story, um, by networking that, you know, they&#13;
would figure out, you know, a grant or a scholarship, 200, I did&#13;
speak in engagement and they figured out how to pay me. And&#13;
it was like a scholarship rate. And I went to speak. And for that&#13;
one hour I would get paid $200. Um, but it was sharing my&#13;
story, it was me and just being part of the movement. But yeah,&#13;
I was able to connect with people and that really helped me&#13;
build a really strong network of educators, professors, lawyers. I&#13;
can count how many lawyers I have in my phone because of&#13;
that &lt;laugh&gt; free services as well. Um, you know, I was able to&#13;
have a really great support system. And I think that, like I said, it&#13;
takes a village. I was able to create and build a really strong&#13;
village to help not just myself, but my parents in a way they&#13;
were able to benefit from that village. You know, they, at&#13;
moments we didn't have a car, so they're the ones that were&#13;
able to pick me up and take me to different speaking&#13;
engagements and so forth.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:33:37 That's very, um, a touching story. Thank you for sharing that.&#13;
Um, I'm sorry my connection is not stable. Um, but thank you&#13;
for sharing that. But so again, um, and you we're doing a lot of&#13;
things during your high school years then. Yeah.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:33:57 &lt;laugh&gt;. Yes.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:33:58 Yes. You were doing a little of everything. You were a local&#13;
celebrity, you were flying, and, um, that is a beautiful&#13;
experiences. So did you remember, when was the first time you&#13;
disclosed your status to someone at school? Uh, during, um,&#13;
your time in high school?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:34:24 I think, I think I first talked my friends about it. Um, I think I was&#13;
just like in, I, I don't know what we were talking about. I&#13;
remember, you know, I was born in Mexico and you know, I&#13;
don't have papers, so I have to kind of, we were talking, we&#13;
were talking about college, but I don't remember how I came&#13;
out and they all just looked at me, but like, but you don't look&#13;
undocumented. What do you mean? And I was just like, what&#13;
&lt;laugh&gt; What does that mean? I'm just getting that from my&#13;
friends. And my other friend was like, well, I was born in Mexico&#13;
too, but I have papers. I know. So I don't, I don't know what you&#13;
did, but &lt;laugh&gt;, I don't have papers. I was just like, I'm, I was&#13;
born in Mexico, but I, I grew up basically here, you know?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:35:14 Mm-hmm. &lt;affirmative&gt;, and, and you know, they, but they&#13;
kept, they kept saying that you, you don't look undocumented.&#13;
And I think when I told my peers, that was mostly what I got,&#13;
you don't look undocumented. And it came to a point when I&#13;
started saying, what does undocumented mean? Like, what do&#13;
you mean with that? And like, oh, like your English is good. You&#13;
don't look like you just from Mexico, or you just crossed the&#13;
border. Or like, what does that mean? Like, I'm really trying to&#13;
comprehend, you know? And I was like, well, you don't have a&#13;
really strong accent or, you know, you're into the, the fashion.&#13;
You, you're, you're dressing. You don't dress like somebody who&#13;
just came. I don't know what that means. I was like, that's still,&#13;
but I think that's from my peers. That's really what I got. You&#13;
don't look undocumented.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:36:02 I think that was like their first, you don't look like an immigrant&#13;
&lt;laugh&gt;. I don't know what that means. I still, to this day, I'm&#13;
like, what not look undocumented mean? Um, but yeah, that's&#13;
what I got. Um, I remember disclosing to a teacher, um,&#13;
because she was talking about college. And I think that in that&#13;
moment I was just like, oh, I have to apply to college. Like I'm in&#13;
high school and this was at Santi. And I was just like, I have two&#13;
more years. How am I gonna do this? And I really just said like,&#13;
"Hey, this is my situation." Um, it was like after the class ended&#13;
and we, we were gonna go to lunch and I said, um, and she's&#13;
still a really good support system to this day. And I just told, I&#13;
know, I was just crying. Cuz I remember I couldn't even say&#13;
without just crying.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:36:52 Like it was just a trigger for me. And she's like, don't worry. Like&#13;
I have your back and we're gonna figure it out together. And&#13;
that's what we did. And they were very good at making me be&#13;
very self-sufficient. They were really good at not doing things&#13;
for me, but allowing me to kind of like treating me like a grad&#13;
student. Because now that I think of it, it was like that, it was&#13;
like, I need you to research what's, what's going on, what laws&#13;
you qualify for now. And that's how my paper on AB 540 started&#13;
because I was able to research that. I didn't know it unless I was&#13;
able to, I was doing research work in the 11th grade and I had to&#13;
provide articles to her. I remember it being APA style &lt;laugh&gt;.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:37:45 I had to do that. And that was my way of also educating myself,&#13;
understanding the language. And if you go back to 2006, the&#13;
language AB 540 law had was way different than what it looks&#13;
now. Now the language, a lot of the language changed because&#13;
of our movements. And I remember reading like "illegal alien",&#13;
you know, that word alien and, and a lot of those, uh,&#13;
immigration laws. And I would just like I'm no alien, like, what,&#13;
what does that mean? Like, why, why are they using these&#13;
terms? And it was just so dehumanizing, not just to myself, but&#13;
just to anybody. And you know, which illegal alien are you? Are&#13;
you the top one that's been in high school for three years? Or&#13;
you're the bottom one that has to visa? Like Right. That's crazy.&#13;
&lt;laugh&gt;&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:38:42 And I, I guys didn't sit well with me. Like, I didn't like it. Like no&#13;
me gusto. I'm like, I'm gonna fight this. Like this is not, and that&#13;
was kinda like the circulator. So I'm not just an undocumented&#13;
person, but now I'm also an alien and I'm in a, in a world or in a,&#13;
in a government that really tries to stigmatize and dehumanize&#13;
the undocumented population. How do we change that? Well,&#13;
we create the narrative. That's how we change it. We, we&#13;
choose a language we wanna use. That's how we change it. So&#13;
we ended up starting moving, oh, what are you, I'm an AB 540&#13;
student. You didn't wanna say you're undocumented. You said&#13;
I'm an AB 540 student or dreamer student. That's our code for&#13;
being undocumented. And that was a way for those teachers&#13;
who were educating themselves knew, oh, I have a, I have an AB&#13;
540 student, or I have a dreamer student.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:39:38 Right. And without saying I have an undocumented student,&#13;
that's how we started moving on those terms. We started&#13;
making them see like, this is who I am. The law does not, it is&#13;
not an alien. This is a student. Right. There was a little damage&#13;
to that. And I can say this because I wasn't, in a way I benefited&#13;
from it, but I, we didn't know the damage it was causing the&#13;
long-term damage it was causing. So the dreamer student was a&#13;
dreamer that student that was defined was that Valedictorian.&#13;
Right. Got to the UC's, got to the Cal States, um, top of the top&#13;
undocumented students. You, uh, leader in the involving the&#13;
community, Valedictorian, 4.0 and above to the top colleges&#13;
universities. Right. And the damage was, there was&#13;
undocumented students who were unfortunately, and it's okay,&#13;
they weren't going to go to college.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:40:45 They had other aspirations, they had other dreams, they had&#13;
other goals. But even if they wanted to use that word Dreamer,&#13;
they couldn't because "Oh, you're not a Dreamer student." You&#13;
know? And even in our group, in in our group of other&#13;
undocumented students from other campuses, you saw the&#13;
narrative change from a UC to a community college. The, the&#13;
students who were in community college really weren't seen as&#13;
much as they really wanted to be seen. Um, and I was fully&#13;
aware of that. Like, I was just saying, "What's going on and why&#13;
is this going on?" You know? But it's new, it's a new movement.&#13;
We didn't know how much damage it was gonna cost to the&#13;
extent Right. But at the same time, we knew that it had to be&#13;
used kind of like a weapon in a political system because&#13;
governors, politicians, anybody in the, in the stance, if they&#13;
wanna put something upfront along the Dream Act, anything,&#13;
the news had to show the Dreamer student. We were the ad,&#13;
right?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:41:58 We had to show the dreamer student if you were this&#13;
revolutionary student doing, because we also had to walkouts.&#13;
So we were doing walkouts, everything, but you had to have a&#13;
balance. So I learned how to do that balance. I learned to be&#13;
that revolutionary student, but also that dreamer student, you&#13;
know, because I knew that I needed to do one thing or have an&#13;
image in order for these politicians to listen to us in order for us&#13;
to be heard. And in order for, for the movement to be taken&#13;
serious because we were not just students. We were gonna be&#13;
the future of America, basically.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:42:42 Right. The next generation. Right?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:42:45 Yes.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:42:47 Very true. Yes. Thank you for sharing that. So, I mean, again, I, I&#13;
wanna get a feeling of you during this time. I know that you&#13;
have, um, the, the drive in you and the force that it's, it, it was&#13;
given to you and fostered by the teachers who help you. But&#13;
when, when you were telling this teacher about your&#13;
undocumented status, were you ashamed of it? Or why do you&#13;
think you had the, uh, reaction of crying?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:43:21 I had the reaction of crying, mostly because it was a trigger of&#13;
trauma. And I'm gonna use some mental health words, &lt;laugh&gt;.&#13;
It was a trigger of trauma. You know, being undocumented is&#13;
not something easy. It's not something that people want. It was,&#13;
it wasn't something. And most important, it wasn't something I&#13;
really asked for. Right? I was kind of brought here by my parents&#13;
and well, this is, we want you to have the American dream. But&#13;
not realizing I had to really work really, really hard for that&#13;
American dream because I'm undocumented, you know? So.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:43:57 Okay.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:43:57 You know, in a life where you can choose battles, that was a&#13;
battle I couldn't choose. And I had to learn how to fight. So even&#13;
saying that I was undocumented, I think it, it wasn't. No me&#13;
daba verguenza. I was not ashamed of it. It was more of that&#13;
hurt that came with it. The pain that came with it. That's what,&#13;
that's where the connection of my trauma was. That that pain&#13;
and that anger that, and the teachers would cry because they're&#13;
like, whoa, you're a valedictorian. You can go to any university&#13;
you want, but because of your status, that's, just really gonna&#13;
limit us. Right? And, and they will cry with me because it's just&#13;
like, I don't know how to help you &lt;laugh&gt;. And I was like, I'm&#13;
asking for help. And they didn't know how to help me, you&#13;
know? And it's, it was really like, I was like, that guinea pig, like&#13;
we had to figure it out together.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:44:54 We really had to figure it out. And, and yeah, me, me saying it&#13;
when, when I was in high school, it was that pain that, that of&#13;
fear, the pain of the unknown, most important. I didn't know&#13;
what I wanted, but I remember the school social worker, she's a&#13;
therapist there also continues to be my mentor to this day. So I&#13;
still have connections with everybody, &lt;laugh&gt; in high school&#13;
mentors. They continue to be my mentors. But, um, I remember&#13;
her saying, don't let your immigration status break you, always&#13;
bend. Bend to the forces, but don't let it break you. And, you&#13;
know, and she's like, you're gonna be somebody who's gonna&#13;
follow her heart blindly. And in therapy, I was able to know that,&#13;
again, I was, I was doing therapy sessions with her in high school&#13;
and I was like, how can I follow my heart blindly being&#13;
undocumented?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:45:57 Because I think the number one thing, the number one fear to&#13;
this day for any undocumented person is fear of the unknown.&#13;
What awaits us in the future because of our status. Right. Um,&#13;
and that was my biggest connection. That was my biggest thing.&#13;
I didn't know what the future would help. I know I wanted to go&#13;
to college. I know I wanted to be somebody in life. I know I&#13;
really wanted all of that. And I remember doing a vision board&#13;
and putting down everything I was gonna do before the age of&#13;
25. And that helped me. And this was a therapeutic technique&#13;
that we used because I helped me envision what I wanted to do&#13;
or be by the time I was 25.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:46:47 So one, one thing that I would love to know, it's who refer you&#13;
to the social worker at school. Was it mandatory that you, um,&#13;
visit the therapist at school?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:46:58 No. So because of the community we grew up in, and because&#13;
of a lot of the riots in the moment at the other high school, um,&#13;
they basically did like a little boundary and anybody within that&#13;
boundary had to go to this new high school. Anybody outside&#13;
the boundary had to stay in that old high school. Um, and so&#13;
they were putting in, um, gangs in the new high school that&#13;
weren't supposed to be together. So I, I think for like the first&#13;
week of school or the second week of school, we still had riots&#13;
in the new school because they were gang related. Mm-hmm.&#13;
&lt;affirmative&gt;. Um, so we had to have, you know, more police&#13;
officer on campus. It looked like a prison, you know, &lt;laugh&gt;.&#13;
Um, we had to walk in, you know, uh, metal detectors, all of&#13;
that good stuff, &lt;laugh&gt;. And, um, they brought in social&#13;
workers.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:47:52 They brought in and, and the, the, the perfect terminology or&#13;
the perfect title for them were, um, psychiatric social workers.&#13;
So these are school therapists, not counselors, school&#13;
therapists, they're licensed school social workers. Um, so they&#13;
brought 'em in and it was, I believe three of them. Um, and they&#13;
told us, these are free services. And I just went in and, um, her&#13;
name was (inaudible) Salazar. And I remember just connecting&#13;
with her, just her office embracing the Mexican culture, um, just&#13;
having decorations, her being a Latina, just that. And I&#13;
remember her just sitting down and telling me like, how are you&#13;
doing? You know, how are you feeling? And I just remember&#13;
crying. And even now that I'm a therapist, it's like, why, why did&#13;
you cry? Is that because nobody ever asked me how I was going&#13;
in that sense. Um, you know, I have that older sister syndrome&#13;
where I took care of everybody and I bent care of everybody.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:49:01 Um, and I was the one that's always there for everybody. Mmhmm. &lt;affirmative&gt;, you know, and for somebody to sit down&#13;
and really look me in the eye and kind of connect with me and&#13;
say, how are you doing? You know, I don't wanna hear about&#13;
your mom, dad, nobody, how are you doing that broke me. And&#13;
that I made a connection in that moment that says, I need, I&#13;
need to come. So I would see her, I believe like once a week.&#13;
Um, I had a session with her and I was able to learn about&#13;
mental health, about the importance of it. And I was able to use&#13;
it to strengthen my story to, you know, um, look at my trauma&#13;
and not normalize it, but heal it. So that when I went to Cal&#13;
State LA I remember like, I remember getting, um, at Cal State&#13;
LA offers, mental health services too.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:49:55 And right. You get even, um, health benefits as students. So I&#13;
remember like taking advantage of everything. I got contacts, I&#13;
got glasses, I went to a chiropractor, &lt;laugh&gt;, and I saw a&#13;
therapist every semester I went in and I was able to do different&#13;
forms of therapy to be able to heal different parts of me; of my&#13;
traumas. Um, even with, um, um, there's a form, there's a&#13;
storytelling therapeutic technique. And I remember using that&#13;
in a way to help me continue to write my story, rewrite my&#13;
story, um, and use it to write paper, use it to be a public&#13;
speaker, use it to write scholarships, but use it to strengthen my&#13;
story.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:50:49 Thank you for sharing that. It's very powerful. Um, so let me,&#13;
make sure I understood it right. So you went to the, to see this,&#13;
uh, school, um, therapist just at a maybe curiosity. Yeah. Okay.&#13;
And this led to, um, cover notice, um, in your words on your&#13;
trauma, right? That you were carrying?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:51:15 Yes.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:51:17 Okay. And you continue and, and um, it might have something&#13;
to do with what you're doing now as a career right?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:51:24 Yes. Like I think she's the reason I went into Cal State LA cuz she&#13;
was also a Cal State LA alumni. Um, and her mentor was her,&#13;
her, she was a Cal State LA alumni and her mentor was Jorge&#13;
Uranga. So she's the one that connected me Jorge Uranaga. So&#13;
she's the one that, she's always had that strong Chicana just&#13;
everything. Like I, till this day, she's already, she's also the&#13;
reason, um, you know, I'm at a grad program because I had her&#13;
do a reference letter &lt;laugh&gt;, you know, so she's, she continues&#13;
to be a part of my life to this day. Um, you know, um, she, you&#13;
know, and, and I'm in the field because I've always admired her&#13;
and her work and her professionalism. But I I always admired&#13;
what she represented. She represented what I wanted to see as&#13;
a kid and I saw her, but I wanted to be another Mexicana in the&#13;
mental health field. I wanted other girls to know that we have&#13;
them, you know, that, that we understand that we spoke their&#13;
language, you know, for her to switch from English to bilingual,&#13;
you know, me decia tienes que enteder you know, like you have&#13;
to understand. No te pongas terca. And I was just like, okay. You&#13;
know, she was able to connect with me in a way that, you know,&#13;
not other counselors might.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:52:52 Right. Right. So yes, when you see, seek a therapist, you need to&#13;
connect at some level.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:53:00 Mm-hmm. &lt;affirmative&gt;. Yeah.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:53:00 Yes, definitely. So, um, I mean, I'm so amazed by that story of&#13;
just finding the courage because a lot of the times we don't find&#13;
the courage right. To seek, um, to see a, therapist. It might be&#13;
because it's stigmatized in our community or, you know, for&#13;
other reasons.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:53:21 Mm-hmm. &lt;affirmative&gt;,&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:53:23 But I was very brave of you and, um, you know, it got your here.&#13;
So I'm glad that you make that choice. Um, so I wanna touch up&#13;
on when you were in high school, you were doing a lot of stuff.&#13;
So you were giving this talks for grad students, is that right?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:53:45 Yes. So, so my mentor, I don't know if you know him, Miguel&#13;
Savala he's a professor at Cal State LA. Um, so I have a few, I&#13;
had a few organization I was a part of, uh, some organizations&#13;
where there were different professors from different campuses&#13;
there. ELAC, Fullerton, Cal State LA, UCLA was a big one too.&#13;
Um.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:54:10 What was the organization name?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:54:13 Um, this was called Somos Raza. So this, Somos Raza was a&#13;
group of, um, educators who were high school teachers and&#13;
college professors who wanted to provide ethnic studies. And&#13;
they're still on until this day and resources and scholarships for&#13;
students. And it's also open to undocumented students. Mmhmm.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:54:38 So you got, um, to meet professors through this organization?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:54:44 Yes, I got to meet them. We got to be comrades in a way, um,&#13;
because Somos Raza there was also, um, lawyers who were part&#13;
of the organization, um, and they were teaching graduate level&#13;
classes for individuals in the programs who were gonna be&#13;
teachers. Um, and they, um, what, what is that word called? Oh&#13;
my god, I'm looking up. Um, oh, teachers in urban areas and you&#13;
know, I went to Fullerton and if you know Fullerton, Fullerton's,&#13;
like Orange County, right? &lt;laugh&gt;. And so they wanna be&#13;
teachers in urban areas. So I would go and I would present do&#13;
talking and growing up in, you know, in my community , kinda&#13;
how I did now, just my story, um, what we kind of expected and&#13;
what we want in teachers going into those neighborhoods. Um,&#13;
you know, what kind of language, what kind of support, what&#13;
kind of resources, but also what are the obstacles, you know,&#13;
that we face as students of minority, uh, just coming from&#13;
minority communities, um, and even students who are&#13;
undocumented.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:55:55 And so I would always end with sharing my story, um, and how&#13;
they can, they can be impactful in those students' lives. And I&#13;
would always tell, and I remember getting questions like, well,&#13;
how do you get undocumented students to come out? And I&#13;
was like, well, you're not gonna put cookies out and tell them&#13;
they're free for undocumented students. Right. &lt;laugh&gt;. And I&#13;
would just like make them laugh. Yeah. I would say, I would say&#13;
host like this, the way this professor's doing it host, it's very&#13;
important for other undocumented students to see another&#13;
undocumented student coming from a college, whether it's a&#13;
Cal State, a community college or a UC, and sharing their story.&#13;
Because then that humanizes them. It humanizes the process is&#13;
not somebody who's third, fourth generation con papales&#13;
coming here telling you about college. Like, how are we&#13;
connecting? What can you provide to me?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:56:48 Right. Or coming from a goody good neighborhood, and I'm&#13;
from the hood, like, okay, your parents are gonna pay for&#13;
college good. My parents can't even pay for a bike. Like, it,&#13;
there's no connection. And to me, community connection was&#13;
always important. And, and if you don't have that, you lose your&#13;
audience. You lose everything, you know? And that was&#13;
important for me. So for me to go into those spaces to be able&#13;
to teach, to be able to be a speaker, I was able to carry that into&#13;
Cal State LA too. But in high school, my main role was how do I&#13;
help my teachers help other kids &lt;laugh&gt;? How do I get them&#13;
to, you know, make it so that they know that they're being&#13;
supported? How do I get them to, what kind of resources can&#13;
we look for? You know? So I would have them in, you know, our&#13;
rising board, you know, and hey, we need snacks or we need&#13;
this.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:57:48 Or, I remember working with a few teachers and we were able&#13;
to move a whole dash, like a bus, a city bus because we didn't&#13;
have a lot of transportation within our new school system. So&#13;
we were able to talk to city council, the mayor, everything, um,&#13;
and be able to move a dash in front of our high school so that&#13;
we are not crossing the different gang territories. Um, so my,&#13;
my movement in high school was social justice. It wasn't just&#13;
immigration, it was social justice. Um, it was educational justice.&#13;
Um, I remember we were about to graduate, we had a principal&#13;
who was just very militant, very coming from a very established&#13;
family and always wanting to have Navy Army recruiters in our&#13;
campus. And I was so against that because again, I was part of&#13;
Somos Raza where we educated ourselves about, you know,&#13;
Latinos and Mexicanos and, you know, individuals, people of&#13;
color, even black, black, um, even our black brothers and sisters&#13;
being part of the army.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 00:58:59 And how that made more of a damage than provided any help.&#13;
And I remember organizing to get the recruiters out, we made&#13;
sure that we had the schedule for the recruiters so we can go in&#13;
and talk to them as we were interested. And that way they&#13;
could just talk to us through the whole break, the lunch break&#13;
with the nutrition break, and then talk to nobody else, um, to&#13;
the point that we protested them and we ended up getting&#13;
them banned. So since 2006 or seven, we've never had army&#13;
recruiters in our high school. We completely had it banned.&#13;
Yeah. And that's powerful because that was another way of&#13;
individuals who didn't see themselves going to college, seeing&#13;
that path as, as a reason. And for us was no, you have more&#13;
options than that.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 00:59:49 It's a very powerful story. Um, that's very, very powerful and&#13;
brave. Can you elaborate on that story a little bit? How, how did&#13;
you, um, organize like a group of students and do you have&#13;
support from the teachers who were already supporting you to,&#13;
um, to do this to kick out the recruiters?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 01:00:13 Yeah, so we were part, well, so this was a, this is the, um, Somos&#13;
Raza and MEChA club at Santi. And, um, we were, we were just&#13;
look at what's going on in our campus. So one thing was the&#13;
transportation, right? We got that done. Um, I was also the&#13;
president, no vice president of the senior class. Um, so a lot of&#13;
that was able to, I was able to get the agenda for a lot of the&#13;
school to see what's going on, but it was being part of the clubs&#13;
and seeing what's happening, what we were not okay with, and&#13;
how we wanted to organize. And our teachers are MEChistas&#13;
from UC San Diego, &lt;laugh&gt; from UCLA and they have a&#13;
background in organizing. Um, and they have a background in&#13;
politicizing and, and being, creating a movement. And they&#13;
taught us how to organize just the concepts, the foundation,&#13;
the, the formula of organizing one-on-one as Raza period.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 01:01:20 That's, really how it does. They, taught us, um, one of the key&#13;
features was Ron Gochez. If you google him from South Central,&#13;
you will know who he is. &lt;laugh&gt;. But he was Ron Gochez. The&#13;
other one is Jose Lara. He's one of the biggest, um, components&#13;
of ethnic studies and why ethnic studies is part of the&#13;
curriculum in LAUSD now. Um, so I had really strong players my&#13;
side, um, and knowing who to make friends with, knowing who&#13;
to have on your side, and knowing that the fights that we were&#13;
fighting were for good, right? That we're actually making good&#13;
movements in our community for other students for the next&#13;
generation. That's what the, the, the key role. A lot of, uh, not&#13;
backlash, but there was a few hiccups that happened. Um, the&#13;
principal and then, so we got our, our principal fired.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 01:02:19 So that was the other, the next step. Um, because he, he was&#13;
very against us. He was very against the teachers that were&#13;
organizing with us. Um, but he was not doing stuff, um, the way&#13;
he was supposed to do. He was very a shady principal. So, um,&#13;
se llamaba Carmino and we got him fired because, um, he&#13;
threatened, well, he threatened me that he would deport me if&#13;
I, in that moment the news was going on about us moving the&#13;
dash and that I had to go. And he pulled me outta class, um, and&#13;
I, that I wa he wanted me to talk to the news about how&#13;
impactful it was. Basically he would take credit for all the good&#13;
things he were doing right. And he would always have the news&#13;
there pa enseñar la cara and he loved that. But he wanted to&#13;
used me to be that student face that, you know, that we're up&#13;
in the hood, but you know, he's doing such an amazing job here,&#13;
giving him credit.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 01:03:20 And I said, no, I'm not doing it. Um, and he threatened me. He's&#13;
like, well, if you don't do it, I'm gonna make sure you don't get&#13;
into the UCLA. I'm gonna make sure that I can use your&#13;
immigration status. We can deport you. I have your address.&#13;
And I went to tell my teachers about him. I went to tell him&#13;
about what he did. Um, and so from there we ended up starting&#13;
a report of all the things he started doing, um, to us, not just to&#13;
me, but to the other, um, students. Um, to the point that on&#13;
one day on a Friday, he had police in the school go look for us&#13;
because he called our names in the intercom and said that we&#13;
needed to be in the principal's office immediately. Like whoever&#13;
did the announcement for him was really mad.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 01:04:06 And I looked at my teacher, I was in ballet class &lt;laugh&gt;. So I&#13;
was in my ballet outfit, &lt;laugh&gt;. And I looked at my teacher and&#13;
I was scared, like, I don't wanna go. Like I know he's mad. And I&#13;
was just like, I don't wanna go. And he said, what happened? I&#13;
told her what happened? And she's like, well, you don't have to&#13;
go. So our class was behind the auditorium and they said that&#13;
we didn't go, that we were gonna have campus security, um,&#13;
look for us, escort us. Well it was in campus security, it's LAPD&#13;
on campus. So we had LAPD go to the classes that we were in&#13;
on our schedules and go look for us. I had an actual LAPD officer&#13;
looking for a student for I don't know why. And my teacher had&#13;
to hide me in the restroom, in the auditorium, so they didn't&#13;
look for me.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 01:04:55 Then we all, I remember when the class finished and the&#13;
teacher was like, well, I don't know if she went to go to the&#13;
principal's office, but I don't know if she's not there. She's not&#13;
there. She tried to cover for me and she's like, Mija, get ready.&#13;
We're gonna call your parents. So I remember getting ready,&#13;
calling our parents, and our parents were furious because it&#13;
wasn't just me, it was all our student club. And those are the&#13;
ones that who were, they got, like they found, um, they wanted&#13;
to speak to their parents, but that's not the way you speak to&#13;
our parents. So from there we started doing community forums.&#13;
Our parents came, yelled at the, principal came in with six&#13;
police officers, like bien wanna be, I don't know, &lt;laugh&gt;. And it&#13;
was just chaos. It was so chaotic. And that was the moment that&#13;
we turned against them. And we started gathering information.&#13;
We started gathering the community, our parents, we made our&#13;
parents organizers so that we can make sure we got the&#13;
principal out. And yeah we got him out. So the next class I&#13;
graduated 2007, 2008, the new class year. Um, didn't have that&#13;
principal. Yeah. &lt;Laugh&gt;&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 01:06:06 Oh my God. It's like you did it all. You did it all. You, you really,&#13;
um, the revolution you were right when you used that word.&#13;
Yes. Oh my god. That's like.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 01:06:21 I was a disrupter. &lt;laugh&gt;.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 01:06:23 Indeed. Indeed. Yes. Oh my God. So I have so many questions.&#13;
So one was, so your, with your group and your coalition of,&#13;
Somos Raza um, you were just looking for things that you could&#13;
change around campus, right? Sounds like it.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 01:06:42 Yeah.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 01:06:43 And then, um, trying to, from your advisors and your, um,&#13;
teacher mentors who were, um, part of their own revolutions&#13;
during their time, um, found the structured to actually make&#13;
the, the change that you wanted mm-hmm. &lt;affirmative&gt;, um,&#13;
was it a, like a structure that you would follow to do perhaps to&#13;
move the dash?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 01:07:11 Um, not necessarily like, oh, here's how you do it. They would&#13;
really just sit back. We would meet after school and say for&#13;
example, like, "Hey, like this is going on. We keep, you know,&#13;
every time we cross a gang boundary, we always get, you know,&#13;
stopped. Mm-hmm. &lt;affirmative&gt; Hit at, it's always even scary&#13;
to walk there with certain friends because, uh, those friends&#13;
belong to another gang." And so it was just hard just to get from&#13;
home to school or from school to home. And so we talked about&#13;
like, "What if we were able to, you know, move transportation&#13;
or, or something like that." And we will bring it up to the&#13;
assistant principals. And, and that moment, um, the Peace&#13;
Committee opened, oh, that was another organization I was&#13;
part of. &lt;laugh&gt;, I forgot about the Peace Committee. Okay. So&#13;
think about, think about Somos Raza as Malcolm X and think&#13;
about the Peace Committee as MLK.&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 01:08:24 So you get the dynamic. So the Peace Committee was really&#13;
different students from different grades. So we had 9, 10, 11,&#13;
and 12. And that was the year I was in 12th grade. Um, each&#13;
one of us represented, um, our classes, um, and our grades&#13;
cause there was a track B track and C track. So I represented C&#13;
track and we, the Peace Committee, our facilitators were the&#13;
counselors, the social workers, and the city council member, uh,&#13;
Jan Perry in that moment. And then two LAPD officers who&#13;
wanted to establish and build, um, support and report with our,&#13;
the students and the community. So, a lot of those ideas were&#13;
like, how do we do that? So what I would do was Somos Raza&#13;
we need to help the kids who are in the hood. We're trying to&#13;
walk from home. We need to build the system, get that&#13;
information, how do we do it? Bring it to the Peace Committee,&#13;
introduce it as the Peace Committee. Jan Perry is right there.&#13;
We had city council right there in front of us. How can we get&#13;
this done? Everybody else is on board because we had other&#13;
Somos Raza members on that, that organization. And that's how&#13;
we basically moved up. We went from one organization, get the&#13;
agenda and give it to the other one.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 01:09:56 So really to create collaboration, right?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 01:09:59 Yep. Coalition.&#13;
Gloria Sosa: 01:10:01 Coalition, collaboration, and make a really good use of the&#13;
resources available to each organization. Mm-hmm.&#13;
&lt;affirmative&gt; Very clever. I love that &lt;laugh&gt;. I love, love that.&#13;
Um, yes. So do you wanna continue for today or would you like&#13;
to, um, stop now?&#13;
Yohana Barajas ...: 01:10:25 We could stop there. I think that's a good, that's a good stop.&#13;
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